Close any topic for profit unless it is clear
Yeah you got it, it is because more than 60% of topics in the community are for ads and earning. why not try to earn after developing good apps? and its mods/devs work to keep community safe and clean.
Stay as it is now is already better than remove functions of 90% of kodular users even if 99.9% of them did nothing wrong.
But let’s talk about alternative solutions.
1 - Just ignore those people
2 - Report their topics, after a few reports of basic, regular or pro koders members the post is deleted. After xx deleted posts the user is suspended for xx weeks.
3 - The moderation could close the topics and advert the creator. If they repeat the behavior, solution number two.
4 - If nothing of that is enough just remove admob category from the community and if the word admob or monetization is written the post is not authorized and the user is alerted that such subject is forbidden for basic users. It is a terrible idea but is better than remove the monetization that help to keep kodular running.
I think if we count the number of topics like you mentioned and then compare with the total number of topics or the total number of kodular users. I think the conclusion would be that it is not a good idea to punish everyone because of a few dummy users.
Just a point, Kodular’s AdSense was suspended due to that few dummy users.
I saw there are hundreds of earning apps in kodular store, some apps are built with thunkable and some with Appy…, why Kodular is not removing them?
I could answer to that but it looks like I am talking alone here. I write a ton and it looks like you are reading - or for some reason decide to answer only about a gram.
Feel free to mobilize the devs to remove admob and others tools that allow thousands good people to make money with great apps because of some people creating stupid topics.
Let’s see in a few months if this will make good to the community and to kodular as a whole / generally.
I don’t mean to let devs remove admob. i want people to earn from their hard work and patience that’s it.
I do not whether these solutions are wrong or correct:
But one thing is wrong ’ Using builders as Money Making Machine ’
And if this is not stopped as soon as possible then there will be only Earning Apps in android stores.
removing any component from builder is not the solution.
i would like to see those good apps, in the past few months i have seen mostly 20 to 50 good apps. and whenever i come to the community i see few post related to admob.
ignoring people will only effect kodular,
and for all of this why do so much work to prevent those dummy users, my solution is simple, if you are a good enough to build an app and who know how to use kodular services then the advertisement components will be available. thats wy i suggested to make it available for trust level 3 users.
and i already mentioned this is not a complete solution.
That’s because we haven’t prioritised moderating the store. However, I’ve just removed all of the earning apps I could find, if I’ve missed any apps, you can report them and they’ll be dealt with quicker.
Yes, unfortunately this what the majority of users think Kodular is for. There’s so many different apps people can build but it’s really disappointing to see that many people are only interested in one - earning apps.
We have been taking steps to stop this. As you are probably aware, we implemented an approval system for ads, this means that anyone using ads outside of the Play Store must request approval to show ads. We don’t approve earning apps and Google no longer allows them on the Play Store.
Unfortunately, some people didn’t like this an setup their own builder with unrestricted access to monetisation components. Now the App Inventor world seems have become synonymous with earning apps and something needs to be done about it.
If this continues this will have an effect on all of the AI world. My worst scenario being that there will be a total block of all apks on Google Play and other stores. Even of App Inventor the mother of them all and the only one not having ad components.
i reported 10 apps
This topic was a must !
I believe blocking monetization components is not a solution.
Why do i think so?
Users create Earning apps with AI based Platforms but… if These platforms stop supporting monetization components then users will switch to Android Studio. There are 1000’s of tutorials showing how to make Earning Apps with Android Studio and the interesting part is… those people need no SKILL at all! They edit prebuilt Project Files.
The Only Solution to this Problem is to Educate Users about the problems of Making Earning Apps and how it affects the App Development Community as a whole. As Per my Findings Earning Apps Do not Generate any Revenue compared to legit and Useful Apps. For Example : Users will use a Useful App more often and has better chance of clicking on the ad and also more engagement time = More Revenue. So at the end Earning Apps are just waste of time and There is No way to stop it(Unless Google Does something smart which will affect the Legit Developers too )
Who started to learn app inventor and derivatives and thought of profit
The answer is everyone
But it does not mean that the application work only for profit applications are made for reasons
Such as helping others to make something useful
There will always be users driven only by money. There is no way to change that.
But what we can do is limit the number of ways by which they can make useless apps.
Encouraging users to make apps from a profit standpoint doesn’t help anyone’s case. It thus becomes a responsibility, of sorts, of all the AI distributions to ensure that quality apps are developed on their platforms.
No that is not true. I know enough users who use these builders for fun and to learn. I don’t want to earn a single cent with the apps i make. I make them for fun because i like them or need them but not to make money. Thinking that everyone is doing this for money is simple not true.
I started exactly like this. I loved making my first button work and spent hours looking through the components and trying different things. As soon as I saw monetisation components, I’ll admit I also got carried away and spent too much time focusing on how I would integrate them in my apps. So a plan against immediate monetisation like ads, would be beneficial.
It’s understandable that ads are placed so that it is worth the time doing the app. I have a suggestion that when someone asks a question ad related, he/she must put a download link for their app in their signature so that people wanting to help can check whether the app isn’t a earning app.
If their question is answered or rejected, he/she can then remove the link or else the question will be rejected